Themes: Presence; 'showing up'; 'being with and being there'; 'standing out of the way'; watchful waiting, but mostly waiting'*. Winnicott; Porges; Dockar-Drysdale; Siegal, Bollas, Milton. "Inactive observation, without anxiety, on the part of the doctor, can hasten a return to health" DWW Winnicott "When I look, I am seen, so I exist" DWW Winnicott In an interview with Dr Scott Lyons, Stephen Porges says that in our culture we treat the expression of trauma pain from another person like a problem to be solved instead of as a communication that we receive and feel. In moving too quickly to diagnose or fix, we may inadvertently not honour whatever those people who have experienced trauma, are really feeling. Our role, Porges continues, is not to fix. Our role is to be there with other people as they express themselves in whatever way they do, because, without such expression, which can be in the form of behaviours or wordless 'symptoms; and without empathic/felt witnessing by all prese